You all know I love me some TikTok. For whatever reason I was getting a lot of trad wives content on my For You page. For those of you not in the know trad wives are those women who are traditional stay at home moms or wives.
On the opposite side of this phenomenon are the women in their 40s and later who learned the hard way what happens when you’re a trad wife and your husband decides he no longer wants you. These women are not telling these trad wives not to do it. They’re not telling them, “He’s going to leave you. You’ll end up divorced and homeless. Guaranteed.” No, they are cautioning people against relying on another person for your financial security. They are explaining what can happen if something goes wrong- he leaves, he dies, he becomes disabled. More importantly, they are not speaking so much to the trad wife content creator because that person is not really a traditional wife; she’s making money. She’s got a safety net. They are talking to the people who are watching all of this and thinking it sounds like a fantastic idea. But the trad wives are having none of it.
I have gone through every scenario and there is no way my husband would leave me high and dry if something happened with us. You know your spouse.
Oh, you are precious! My sweet summer child, if that man ever decides he’s done with you and he moves on to a newer model you won’t know that man. I never thought my West Point educated, high earning husband would ever not pay what the courts ordered him to pay. I never thought this man who said, and whose family always said, the only thing he ever wanted was a family of his own, would abandon that family. I never thought he would walk away from his two children. I would go so far as to say none of us thought our husbands would do what they did. We all thought we knew our spouse. Until we realized this person we had been married to for years and years was a total stranger now that he no longer valued us.
I got a degree and work experience before I got married and had a child.
Same girl; same. Unfortunately, what you will find out should your husband ever cheat on you and leave after fifteen or twenty years of marriage, is that your experience and skills are outdated when you attempt to return to the workforce. No one gives a shit that you have a degree or what you did ten years ago. Your unbridled confidence and audacious optimism is endearing; however, it is no match for our tarnished reality.
Someone once told me you can never get divorced because you are a sahm. I was like, “Look, what’s his is mine. I get half of everything. I’m wealthy, too.”
Aren’t you cute as a button? I know; I know. That is the lie they tell us. And sure, I suppose you are entitled to half of everything. But those of us who have actually gone through a divorce can tell you, if you’d bother to listen, that there is a difference between what should happen and what does happen.
Talk to the thousands of women who have suddenly had all funds cut off. Unless they’ve got family willing to help it’s going to be tough to hire a lawyer to fight for what is theirs. Talk to the women who have had utilities shut off, credit cards and car payments not paid, bank accounts and retirements drained in preparation for the divorce. Talk to the women who didn’t have the money to hire a forensic accountant to trace all the funds her husband spent on his affair partner, or who hid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Oh, I know. He would never do that. After all you know your spouse. So let’s say you’re right. You know him. He gives you half. It won’t be enough to maintain your lifestyle. You’ll get half of whatever is in the bank accounts, retirement funds, investments. You’ll get half of the proceeds of the house (if he doesn’t let it fall into foreclosure). Then what? He’s still off making six figures and you’re starting all over making $15, $20 an hour. How long do you think those assets are going to last when you go from living on $200,000 down to $40,000 or $50,000?
That’s not even taking into consideration the number of women who give up fighting for her half because he makes it so difficult on her. She’s emotionally drained and she just wants it over. Or he’s willing to give her full custody in exchange for no alimony or taking less of his 401k.
You finally divorce, take your half, and you end up living in a much smaller house in a less desirable neighborhood because your income has decreased drastically. Meanwhile, his life hasn’t skipped a beat because he’s the one with a thriving career and a huge paycheck.
Don’t get me started on the lost wages and the lost retirement money they don’t have because they stayed at home to raise children, based on the false promise that he would always take care of her.
Trust me, Button, half is not going to be enough.
Motherhood is the most important career there is! Keep it up!
Perhaps. Sadly, the pay does not reflect the importance. There are no retirement benefits, no sick time, no vacation time. It’s a volunteer position with no salary offered. If you go back after years tending to children you’ve lost hundreds of thousands in lost wages and retirement. I think it’s the only “most important career there is!” that leaves its employees vulnerable to financial abuse and completely dependent upon another person.
I literally have a BS in finance.
You are adorable. Let me know how that works for you in ten years when you want to go back (or have to go back to support your family) and everyone is telling you you have no relevant experience. Or you are suddenly facing ageism in the workforce.
Actually no, it’s called, “I’m entitled to half our savings/401k and assets and alimony and child support.” Find something else to bitch about.
Oh my! We have a spicy one. Let me introduce you to something called, “Alimony is only awarded to 6-7% of women.” Or another thing called, “Most states don’t have alimony.” Or, this is my favorite. It’s the one called, “Less than 50% of people who are supposed to receive child support actually receive it in full each month.”
See previous paragraphs about this idea you’ll get half of everything and continue to live your fairy tale life.
I sleep like a baby next to a man who is wildly in love with me and would move heaven and earth for our family. If you’re looking for women to rattle, look somewhere else.
Bless your heart. I hope you wrote those words on cake so that if you ever are in the unfortunate position of needing to eat them they are sweet going down.
For starters, we are clearly happier than you because we don’t view marriage as a battle where someone has the “upper hand”.
Having a backup plan if things don’t go as planned is seen as needing the upper hand? Not wanting to be completely financially dependent on someone else is seen as needing the upper hand? Is blindly trusting someone with your life now the standard for an equal partnership?
No one is saying to get the upper hand. They are simply saying, “Protect yourself!” Make sure you have a way to support yourself and your kids if something should go wrong.
I’d be interested to see the number of marriages that last- a sahm vs. a working mom. I could see a sahm being able to put more into her marriage?
My marriage has improved 10 fold since becoming a SAHM, was the response.
SAHM’s do have a lower divorce rate. Instead of attributing that to much happier marriages though it is possible they simply can’t afford to leave. You see it time and time again on infidelity support boards. He’s cheating but she’s a stay at home mom with 3 little kids. Or she home schools the kids. Where’s she going to go? How’s she going to support her kids? How will they fare in public school? Does she want to work her ass off for a quarter of the money she’s living on now, put her kids in daycare, and split their time/holidays with her ex? Or will she look the other way and pretend it didn’t happen? Will she stuff it all deep down inside so she can justify staying to herself? Countless women have said they haven’t left because they don’t have the funds.
Judge Judy once said to always make your own money because once you are dependent on a mate it’s over. There is no longer an equality. She goes on to say that you don’t necessarily have to use your craft/career but you need to be prepared to use it. If you are not prepared then you’re stuck. That is the point at which you have to accept lifestyles that are unpleasant because you are financially stuck. So find something you’re good at and that will help you earn a living.
Don’t let those stats fool you. Women who can take care of themselves file for divorce because they can.
I went to school with really rich kids. I know two moms who were married to lawyers. One worked at a store in the mall for as long as I remember after her divorce. The other left his wife when the kids were adults and gave the oldest son the house that she was in. She lives in a small apartment now.
Oh no! How horrific! Any woman who loves their kids would trade living in a small apartment (the horror) or working at the mall to take care of their own babies instead of having a stranger raise them at daycare, was the response.
Talk about missing the entire point. As a woman who loves her kids, who stayed at home with them and was dumped after 20 years of marriage I can say with my whole chest, “Fuck you, bitch!”
As if the standard for loving your children is to be willing to live in poverty. As if the standard for loving your children is to have all joy sucked from your life after years and years of dedication to another person. No! Just no.
I love my kids. I loved being able to stay home with them. I loved being able to easily travel to all of the gymnastics meets, being able to take them to practices and games/meets, being able to spend the summers going to amusement parks and water parks and lakes and everything else I did to fill the time. I will also be the first person to admit that staying at home with them was the biggest mistake of my life.
I was completely financially dependent upon my ex-husband. Everything I had I had because of him. Yes, my sacrifices made it easier for him but it was his paycheck that paid for our 4000 square foot home, our pool, our vacations, our kids’ extracurricular activities. When he left, and more specifically once he lost his job and was no longer sending the court ordered support, I lost everything. We lost everything.
Those women that the commenter mentioned, one working a retail job and the other living in a small apartment, dedicated years of their lives to their husbands and children. In the end they are living a life of struggle and poverty. No one should be expected to live like that to prove their love for their children. Had they had a career of their own, had they focused on themselves instead of others, perhaps they wouldn’t be living like this. Instead they put all of their trust into a man; their financial security hinged upon this man continuing to want to fuck her. Once their husbands were no longer invested in them those women lost their financial security.
Just left a six figure salary to be a SAHM. No more 401k but I know my kids are loved and safe! My husband relies on me to manage finances!
You ladies are just cuter than a bug in a rug. My husband relied upon me to manage the finances, too! When he started wiring his mistress money every two weeks or so he just lied and told me it was for his mom. How was I going to tell him he couldn’t do that when it was his paycheck? When he bought his mistress and her daughter new iPhones he lied again and told me it was for his mom and his stepdad. He took money out of savings, where I wouldn’t have even looked and noticed. He opened a joint bank account with Harley and I was none the wiser until her husband told me about it. He cashed in his remaining stocks and had it wired to the new joint bank account. He let his mistress go wild with approximately $32,000 over the course of five months. Managing the finances means nothing. I suppose it’s better than not having a clue about what’s coming in or going out, but in the end they can get around that if they choose.
Yes! My husband may earn the majority of the money but I do 100% of the budgeting, and my name is on our bank account and everything of value we own.
Same girl! And in the end it didn’t matter. What mattered is that he had a job and I didn’t. What mattered is that once he finally went back to work after his 10 month sabbatical he went right back to making 6 figures and whatever amount he lost his AP turned wife was able to make up for. I didn’t have a six figure job to turn to. I made around $20,000 that first year I worked at the bank. I supplemented what I made there by getting up at 3:30 in the morning and going to work from 4-7am before I took off for the bank. Because I worked two jobs I think my income showed around $33,000. Because he had a job his life didn’t change much. He moved into a nice big house with Harley and I moved in with my mom. I didn’t have a bedroom for the first two years. Having a job matters. Hopefully whatever it is that she does for six figures is something she can easily return to should she either want to or need to.
Same! I just left my job to enjoy my kids. My husband wouldn’t know how to run the house without me.
Oh, honey! Don’t worry. He wouldn’t leave unless he had your replacement lined up. He wouldn’t need to know how to run the house. He’d leave it all to your replacement.
Seriously? Do these women really think this protects them? He doesn’t know where anything goes in the kitchen so he’d never leave. Hee hee hee. Honey, that won’t stop them.
And yet another one: He would be LOST without my budgeting/shopping/etc. “What if he leaves?” And??? What if??? He’ll go broke because he can’t pay a bill on time. And he’s lost without my childcare.
Again, he’s not going to be lost. He’s going to have your replacement on standby and she’s going to do all of those things that you do now. She’ll pay the bills. She’ll budget and shop and take care of the kids when it’s his time to have them. If he doesn’t straight up abandon them. You ladies certainly overestimate your usefulness.
I used to fix my husband’s plate every night. I washed and folded his clothes and then I put them away for him. I paid the bills. I took care of his kids. I took care of him. I ran him to the hospital when he got sick. I made his therapy appointments. I made his doctor’s appointments. I usually went with him to those appointments. I was his crutch when he was overwhelmed. I stepped in and took charge when he was falling apart. In the end, despite all of those things I did, he found someone else willing to do them. I was left without my high earning husband or a job of my own.
They’re just mad that they cant be one. Keep being amazing girl!
No, you idiot. They were one. They paid the price for doing it. They are trying to warn others. It is not jealousy. It’s sisterhood.
If you were at the beach and you noticed a dorsal fin would you warn someone going out into the surf? “Hey! There’s a shark out there. I just saw it!” Or would you let them go on out and hope for the best? I think most of us would warn the person. That’s what they’re trying to do. “Look, I got royally screwed because I didn’t think to protect myself. Make sure you don’t make the same mistake. Have a backup plan.”
We’ve been together for 13 years. That man ain’t going no where unless I leave him.
This calls for another, “Bless your heart.” I guess she must not know many people who got divorced after 13 years of marriage. I was married 20 years myself. Perhaps she should come on over to a divorce/infidelity support board and see the number of people who speak of divorcing after 15, 20, 25, or even 30 years or more. 13 is not a magical number. I’m pretty sure late in life divorces is the fastest growing segment right now.
Alas, there is hope. Behold the following:
One of the most successful PR moves of the patriarchy is convincing us that the warnings and insights of older women is just “bitterness”.
A second person chimes in:
This comment is gold. Somehow the patriarchy finds a way to diminish women in all stages of life. Too old, too young, too emotional, etc. Taking advice from women who are ahead of us is one of the most powerful resources we have. Ignoring older women’s guidance means missing out on crucial perspectives and leadership that we so desperately need as a society.
Good luck, trad wives. May the odds be ever in your favor. And if you find out that they might be shifting perhaps you can find an older, wiser trad wife who can guide you.